邻居给我写了封信

Martin_2F

原帖由 令狐不冲 于 2010-8-2 20:32 发表
To my dear friend,

Thanks for your kind letter.

We have been living neighbourhoods for too long that I almost get use to the garlic smell, if did not remind me that I was living in Australia in your ...

老大，是curry不是garlic，估计阿叉看到你这句话丈二和尚摸不着头脑。。。。。

20100

邻居有偷窥癖，别忘了种树。

Seiya

加高篱笆如何？

nemo258

原帖由 令狐不冲 于 2010-8-2 20:32 发表
To my dear friend,

Thanks for your kind letter.

We have been living neighbourhoods for too long that I almost get use to the garlic smell, if you did not remind me that I was living in Australia in  ...

阿狐， 收我做徒弟吧

huazhb

NND, 怎么lz没了?

maxiaoc

原帖由 huazhb 于 2010-8-8 17:44 发表
NND, 怎么lz没了?

Maybe friend again

TartarT

印度人真的很没救。
烦死它们了。

aulotus

建议楼主多多搜索百度，关键词如 如何和印度人交往 等等，有一些文章说得比较好。
比如。
http://www.canadameet.com/news/world/2010/0516/22789.html

我们都不主张歧视，力求公平。所谓多元文化，我们就要需要了解他们的文化。

如果楼主是个印度邻居，那么要看他是信印度教还是穆斯林， 这样交往是可能会注意避免误解。

我以前住过一个地方，有那么几天，旁边搬进一个新邻居，是印度人，连续唱了很多天的卡拉ok.十点多就不会停。 而且声音非常清楚。 也从来没有看到人家show 一点不好意思或者作出解释。但是我相信，如果是华人也唱上一个礼拜。他们肯定就会抱怨不高兴了。也许这也能算是文化差异吧。

我同事前几天说了一个事情，澳洲某地机场cab 司机当场全部罢工，原因是一个警察警告多次一个印度司机不要违规停车，那人不听，最终没有办法告诉他不开走车会把他铐起来，结果人家还是不听。于是铐起来请到警车里面。好。结果其他司机全都静坐不干活了。结果以了解，据说印度有个文化就是老大哥做什么，大家也得跟着做。所以全都不做工。如果老大做错了事情，大家也都要跟着做。大家认为不合理合法的话，可以。但是从文化的角度，就是对的。

也许这些不叫文化， 但是可以叫教育，叫素养什么的。不过事实就是这样，大家生活在一个多民族的国家。也必将是一个多种教育，多种素养的国家。

如果了解穆斯林的文化，那么对恐怖主义的认识就可能会有一定的改变，或者对和穆斯林的人民接触就会知道注意点什么。具体就不多说了，扯远了。但所陈述这些的主旨是，先了解对方， 这样无论是要据理力争，还是坦诚交往消除误解，都会有很大好处。

也建议楼主不要随便回信。风险比较大。他们如果真坏的话，可能还就希望你回信呢！希望你在心中阐明你家有噪音的事实，至于其他的解释他们则不管就抓住你承认事实这把柄就够了。当然，如果他们本质是好的，则不需要想这么多了。

[ 本帖最后由 aulotus 于 2010-8-14 22:53 编辑 ]

berlindut

顶楼上的

atm

lz很久不上，认识他的人是不是要考虑一下报警了

Martin_2F

楼~~~主~~~~归~~~~来~~~~楼~~~~主~~~~归~~~~~来～～～～

cindydundaszuji

语法很烂，一看就是高中毕业（也许没毕业）就走上社会的白人的水平。 告诉他sarcasm won't solve any problem, you didn't have to be so hash. Just tell us if anything gets in your way, don't wait for this long then hold grudge on us.

wiii

不要去‘分析’贱货咖喱，这种事情该往哪儿告，就往哪儿告，用最很的合法手段去对付那些低贱的生物，不要担心遭报复，对付那些蛆就要狠准

shayy

原帖由 aulotus 于 2010-8-14 22:50 发表
我同事前几天说了一个事情，澳洲某地机场cab 司机当场全部罢工，原因是一个警察警告多次一个印度司机不要违规停车，那人不听，最终没有办法告诉他不开走车会把他铐起来，结果人家还是不听。于是铐起来请到警车里面。好。结果其他司机全都静坐不干活了。结果以了解，据说印度有个文化就是老大哥做什么，大家也得跟着做。所以全都不做工。如果老大做错了事情，大家也都要跟着做。大家认为不合理合法的话，可以。但是从文化的角度，就是对的。

I reckon they can gain respect if they respect others... they don't even respect law, which is the base of the culture here.

vking

一定要回敬他们，我们也都交了那么多的税，他以为它是谁啊

小黑皮

这个事情现在有结果了吗？ 如果楼主有时间，和大家反馈一下吧

wyw

原帖由 angelaleewi99 于 2010-7-12 10:32 发表
告他，种族歧视委员会

有道理，应该告。
对这种邻居，你退让不退让，她都会来劲。
索性斗争到底。

wyw

原帖由 xsjrr 于 2010-7-12 10:49 发表
为什么有事发生时大家第一反应就是别人歧视？也不好好看看人家都写啥内容？如果他们所写属实，是不是要好好注意下自己的行为？如果他们是夸大其词胡言乱语，则是歧视。

老实说这封信除了某些观点有点以偏概全，我倒是觉得挺语重 ...

唉，人家都差指着鼻子骂了，还语重心长涅。

建议楼主，回一份信，不要什么文采，只谈观点即可，
同时提到保留投诉歧视的权利。

jxyzy

好长的帖啊，有后话么，占着位子等。

snc302

我在等故事的发展呢。楼主，你的终极英文信还有语法错误哦。但是不要紧，已经够终极了，呵呵。我估计如果我是你，会写得更加狠一点。我看论坛上的人写得好的有很多呢。
我其实不是一个种族歧视者，但是当我真正接触过印度人之后，我忍不住要歧视他们。我并不是一杆子把他们打死，他们中也有好的，我只说绝大多数我接触下来的，都是咖喱味太重，受不了。

秋水还清

原帖由 恢恢 于 2010-7-12 16:30 发表

我也很失望，其实邻居是哪个国家，哪个种族的人并不重要，重要的这封带有侮辱的信，不论是谁写的，都要斗争到底，白人又怎样，谁又比谁优越多少，澳洲不是一个平等的国家吗，如果不平等，我们来这里干什么，我不会因为白人的歧视而忍辱负 ...

就是就是，我楼上的邻居很吵，小孩子每天6点多起来就蹦，几乎在家跑一天，很少见他妈带他下楼玩，有时候晚上10店还嘣嘣的，今早周日7点小孩起床就敲了1分钟铁床架（估计是）

我很客气的和他们说了3次，先是被他们反咬一口，说我几年前有一天请人到家吃饭吵到了他们，然后说他们也控制不了自己的孩子，还告诉我们不要管他们如何教育孩子。我真是没则了，只能不停的给strata写信了。

楼上的是北京人（他们自己说的）

特特喵

原帖由 秋水还清 于 2010-9-6 03:00 发表



就是就是，我楼上的邻居很吵，小孩子每天6点多起来就蹦，几乎在家跑一天，很少见他妈带他下楼玩，有时候晚上10店还嘣嘣的，今早周日7点小孩起床就敲了1分钟铁床架（估计是）

我很客气的和他们说了3次，先是被他们反咬一口，说我几年 ...

strata有回复你什么嘛？还是根本不管事的？

秋水还清

[quote]原帖由 特特喵 于 2010-9-6 07:01 发表


Strata 说他们也只能给楼上的发信，如果没有效果，业主会讨论

Yana.chen

我很喜欢我的印度朋友们，这里也很多带有歧视印度人的声音，己之不欲勿施于人，大家将心比心下呀。
楼主的邻居是真rude，楼主不能被他们欺负了。不要在意别人是否看得起，自己要有信心。近邻这样很烦人的，尤其是要招惹了小人就更不妙啊。楼主仔细考虑再行动。必要的时候，阴谋，武力一起上，打个擦边球，整得他们再也不敢。祝好运！

joechannel

英文水平有限， 如果是我就回复如下， 大家改正。。。

Re OUR “FRIENDLY” NEIGHOURS
I am writing this letter to bring to your attention that our boys are having school holidays and we sleep late at night and wake up late in the morning, because it is holidays and relaxing time for us. Thanks for the information. Actually I am not interested in your private daily plan and daily life schedule as you mentioned below.

Since the time your parents in law are staying here, we have been tolerating lot of noise early in the mornings; however during the school days it is kind of ok. My apologies for this, we Chinese people are all hard working and diligent, we do not like wake up very late and relax all the day like a Koala.

Our bedrooms are in a place that any little noise from your front yard is heard clearly till our lounge room, it is not sound proof. Sorry again, but why do you choose a house with all bedrooms in the front? Had you ever think about the potential noise in the future before you made the decision to buy the house.

Your other side neighbours are lucky they don’t get to hear any noise from your front yard. I should say they are smart and have made a good decision when they bought the house.

Even though we have two young boys, the noise that comes from our side is very minimal and I am presuming does not disturb any neighbours. Thank you, you are considerable

So I guess we are the unlucky ones have to put up with the digging, banging and sometimes we feel that we live in a Chinese village, than Sydney Australia. I believe Australia is multi-culture country and it is able to embrace all the nations and cultures. And I believe most Australian respect other people’s culture. My apologies for making you feel it that way. We have our own life style and if that’s really bother you. The only thing I can say is I am sorry but that can not be changed. It is like I could not change your life style to something else. Right?

Your child screaming loudly, pushing his toy car on the cement and playing the ball at 7 am in the morning is very noisy and disturbing to us. That’s my boy

There is an appropriate time and place for these sort of things. He can scream as much as he want in your backyard, that noise is not much heard in our bedrooms. Also our boys go back to school on the 20th so you can make noise after that time until the next school holidays in October. I do not need anybody else to teach me how to educate my child. I expect him to grow up with happiness and he feels free to live a happy life anytime.

Unfortunately, we are not on Centrelink benefits and privileged to sit at home and mind the kids and have someone to cook and clean for us. In fact we work hard and pay taxes for other people to live a luxury lifestyle even without working. You are not on Centerlink benefits, who is? I am also working hard to pay taxes for other people to live a luxury lifestyle. If you are not satisfied with the System, I suggest you talk to government or taxation office. I can not resolve your concerns here.

  We have to do everything on our own, so throughout the school term we are extremely busy running around, therefore school holidays and weekends is a relaxing time for us. You should learn here, that is the benefit we can get from our culture, our parents more than happy to take care of our child and do cleaning staff. I understand how hard you life is but can not help here, sorry!!! I can not change your cultures. also I do not want to…because I respect other cultures.

The first time you and your wife came to meet us at our place, we welcomed you and took you inside the house even though I was watching a very interesting TV program and you came unannounced at our dinner time. My apologies for disturbing you and leaving you such a unfriendly impression from the first beginning.

You can with the excuse to ask for permission to install a satellite antenna, even though you did it after 1 year. Why did that bother you? You should have let us know if you were not happy for that.

I thought maybe we have good neighbours who we can rely on each other, but it is not the case. It seems you guys are not interested in anyone else other than your own cultural background and happy in your own environment. You may have many friends but sometimes in times of emergency you might end up needing the neighbours although you have maintained one good neighbour the opposite side of your house. Yes, we are enjoying our own culture and make friends with the same culture. That is because we are having different lifestyles and cultures and you are not happy to accept that.

I don’t think we have done anything wrong to you guys. Sorry, I was unable to get this letter typed in Mandarin as we live in Australia with English being the main language. Sorry for you if you can not type Mandarin but I do not think you want to. Your wording here give us a feeling of discrimination, but we are generous and do not want to make this “air of animosity” worse.

It is said “ you change for the world, do not let the world change for you”. You can either alternate your house with additional sound-proof structure or be more generous when you look at the big world.
Hope this letter makes sense and clears the air of animosity.
Sincerely

snc302

很想知道后续

seth_chen

阿三嘴上叫的凶，看你比他凶他马上认怂
建议楼主把之前因为受不了中东邻居吵闹去argue结果被对方割喉的新闻打出来放他家邮箱，记得不要用自己家打印机打...
然后没事在后院健个身打打沙袋啥的，一定让阿三看见
华人大多老实，要是隔壁是中东哥们，我赌$50他p都不敢放

caffèlatte

写得好！辛苦了。没法加分 给个表情吧

snc302

楼主啊，还没下文啊，好想知道事情发展呢

atm

lz呢？没有下文？